So I had a call from a former client a couple of weeks ago, to do a ferry permit for a 767 in Florida. I requested and received the Geographic Expansion from Orlando's FSDO to do the certification. Then it is a waiting game for them to get the aircraft out of storage and presentable for my inspection. One of the guys I know who was involved said the airplane did not hold a US Certificate of Airworthiness due to lack of storage procedures, and robbing parts. You do not however need to have a C of A to get a ferry permit.
A few days go by and I hadn't heard anything about the schedule. I had reviewed the Airworthiness and Registration files I paid for, ready to go. I got an email from the same guy who hired me, saying another guy had already been pursuing another DAR and he apologized that he didn't know that when he contacted me. The other party worked with a DAR I've spoken to before...out of Texas. Poor management on their part but no matter...the job was no longer mine.
I did however drop a quick email to the other DAR hired and let him know, just in case he wasn't aware, that the aircraft had its C of A pulled by the FAA in Florida and why. This led to more conversation...and by the end of Friday he called to say not only had Florida been involved, but also the Great Lakes Region...and forwarded me an email saying that no certification could be issued without their approval.
I contacted the guy who had hired me- who was working for the owner of the aircraft, and let him know that I knew the aircraft didn't have a C of A...that I would've contacted the Florida FSDO and worked with them on airworthiness issues and make sure they approved before issuing the ferry permit...and that if the aircraft is on any kind of watch it would probably flag when any DAR has to submit his Operating Limitations for approval. I advised him to get the owner to work with the FAA to get a list of what had to be done to get them to OK the permit.
The rest of the story? The letter of from Great Lakes stated that the aircraft had not been stored properly in the Florida humidity...there were mold spores bad enough that they called in OSHA who said the aircraft was not safe to ENTER without a full body suit and a respirator, various parts had been robbed and not documented so airworthiness would have to be determined.
I forwarded the letter from Great Lakes, and the Revocation of the C of A to my FAA advisor so that he could talk to the other offices. I received a call back stating the project is dead in the water until Great Lakes says so. The problem with this entire situation- there is no list published on the FAA website stating which aircraft the FAA has these issues with, and there was nothing in the Airworthiness file to notify any DAR that the C of A was pulled, or that there was a restriction from certification on that aircraft. If I hadn't been told by a little bird...someone who I trust and who didn't want me to be at risk of not knowing about the C of A being pulled...I would never have known...the other DAR wouldn't have found out...and the ferry permit WOULD have been issued. Notifications about problem aircraft are sent out by EMAIL. This aircraft's C of A was pulled in MAY, no email has come out, and there is no way to research it except to call the Registry branch, and that only works if they've received the paperwork. This is a poor system.
A few days go by and I hadn't heard anything about the schedule. I had reviewed the Airworthiness and Registration files I paid for, ready to go. I got an email from the same guy who hired me, saying another guy had already been pursuing another DAR and he apologized that he didn't know that when he contacted me. The other party worked with a DAR I've spoken to before...out of Texas. Poor management on their part but no matter...the job was no longer mine.
I did however drop a quick email to the other DAR hired and let him know, just in case he wasn't aware, that the aircraft had its C of A pulled by the FAA in Florida and why. This led to more conversation...and by the end of Friday he called to say not only had Florida been involved, but also the Great Lakes Region...and forwarded me an email saying that no certification could be issued without their approval.
I contacted the guy who had hired me- who was working for the owner of the aircraft, and let him know that I knew the aircraft didn't have a C of A...that I would've contacted the Florida FSDO and worked with them on airworthiness issues and make sure they approved before issuing the ferry permit...and that if the aircraft is on any kind of watch it would probably flag when any DAR has to submit his Operating Limitations for approval. I advised him to get the owner to work with the FAA to get a list of what had to be done to get them to OK the permit.
The rest of the story? The letter of from Great Lakes stated that the aircraft had not been stored properly in the Florida humidity...there were mold spores bad enough that they called in OSHA who said the aircraft was not safe to ENTER without a full body suit and a respirator, various parts had been robbed and not documented so airworthiness would have to be determined.
I forwarded the letter from Great Lakes, and the Revocation of the C of A to my FAA advisor so that he could talk to the other offices. I received a call back stating the project is dead in the water until Great Lakes says so. The problem with this entire situation- there is no list published on the FAA website stating which aircraft the FAA has these issues with, and there was nothing in the Airworthiness file to notify any DAR that the C of A was pulled, or that there was a restriction from certification on that aircraft. If I hadn't been told by a little bird...someone who I trust and who didn't want me to be at risk of not knowing about the C of A being pulled...I would never have known...the other DAR wouldn't have found out...and the ferry permit WOULD have been issued. Notifications about problem aircraft are sent out by EMAIL. This aircraft's C of A was pulled in MAY, no email has come out, and there is no way to research it except to call the Registry branch, and that only works if they've received the paperwork. This is a poor system.